Taekwondo and Boxing

[a***@yahoo.com]

Hi all

I'm a 1st Dan in Taekwondo and looking to improve my hand skills by
supplementing my training. One of the teachers at the college where I
work has offered to teach me some basic boxing.

Has anyone else here cross-trained in the two, and if so, how useful do
you think it would be? I imagine it would certainly help my close-in
skills, but was wondering if there would be any detrimental effects at
all on my TKD.

Cheers

Andy

[Clothahump]

Post by a***@yahoo.com
Hi all
I'm a 1st Dan in Taekwondo and looking to improve my hand skills by
supplementing my training. One of the teachers at the college where I
work has offered to teach me some basic boxing.
Has anyone else here cross-trained in the two, and if so, how useful do
you think it would be? I imagine it would certainly help my close-in
skills, but was wondering if there would be any detrimental effects at
all on my TKD.

=======================
There's no downside. All knowledge is good.

TKD for years was known as the "kicking" art. But lately, more and more
people are cross-training with other disciplines and learning more hand
techniques beyond the basic punch, knifehand and hammerfist. It just
makes us better martial artists.

[Jim]

Post by a***@yahoo.com
Hi all
I'm a 1st Dan in Taekwondo and looking to improve my hand skills by
supplementing my training. One of the teachers at the college where I
work has offered to teach me some basic boxing.
Has anyone else here cross-trained in the two, and if so, how useful do
you think it would be? I imagine it would certainly help my close-in
skills, but was wondering if there would be any detrimental effects at
all on my TKD.

Boxers have been knocking each other out for hundreds of years. I'm sure
they're good at it by now...

My only concern would be that boxing might not get you the best
instruction in how to blend your two styles, as TKD style kicking is
pretty alien to a boxer. A good kung fu school of some flavor might mix
the two more effectively.

If I had to start over, I'd go with Limalama.

J

[Bagder Joisey]

Post by Jim
Boxers have been knocking each other out for hundreds of years. I'm sure
they're good at it by now...

Absolutely. Boxers also fight at an early stage of their training and
are actually trying to beat the other person and not take a beating at
the same time. Commercail storefront MA schools dont have the same
playbook for the most part.

Post by Jim
My only concern would be that boxing might not get you the best
instruction in how to blend your two styles, as TKD style kicking is
pretty alien to a boxer.

Crosstraining isnt new. _You_ integrate the styles by fighting and
integrated fighting is easily found in MMA schools.

Post by Jim
A good kung fu school of some flavor might mix
the two more effectively.

No. Boxing is more likely to be integrated at a MMA gym, not a CMA
school.

Post by Jim
If I had to start over, I'd go with Limalama.

You can find boxing gyms in every city and most large towns (at least
those that have YMCA's) across the US, Canada, Mexico and elsewhere
around the world.

Dont you feel that a relatively obscure style would be pretty far down
the list of the _first_ style you;d start in?
--Don--
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[Jim]

Post by Bagder Joisey

Post by Jim
My only concern would be that boxing might not get you the best
instruction in how to blend your two styles, as TKD style kicking is
pretty alien to a boxer.

Crosstraining isnt new. _You_ integrate the styles by fighting and
integrated fighting is easily found in MMA schools.

Absolutely. The student is ultimately responsible for their success in
any endeavour, but there's no reason to train in a way that forces _you_
to make integration decisions, ignoring hundreds of years of inherited
experience from a good lineage.
Going back to the original post, the offer to train is boxing was from a
"teacher at a college," not an MMA instructor. A straight boxing gym
isn't going to teach you when to kick in rhythm with your punching.

Post by Bagder Joisey

Post by Jim
A good kung fu school of some flavor might mix
the two more effectively.

No. Boxing is more likely to be integrated at a MMA gym, not a CMA
school.

Again, there's no mention of MMA in the original post. I stand by my
statement that a good kung fu school is better for integrating "hand
skills" with existing kicking than a boxing gym.

Post by Bagder Joisey

Post by Jim
If I had to start over, I'd go with Limalama.

You can find boxing gyms in every city and most large towns (at least
those that have YMCA's) across the US, Canada, Mexico and elsewhere
around the world.
Don't you feel that a relatively obscure style would be pretty far down
the list of the _first_ style you'd start in?

No. Knowing what I know about martial arts in general and Limalama in
particular (which is hardly obscure, it's far and away the most popular
style in Latin America), I've seen that the style teaches very good
habits very early in the training.

Don't for a second assume I'm down on boxing, I have a great deal of
respect for the sweet science and the training methods they use. That
doesn't mean that western boxing is the best compliment to a TKD
background. Specifically, pure boxers don't train to strike with elbows,
forearms, shoulders, or open hands; neither do they practice wrist/arm
locks, body folds, or chokes. Pretty important stuff...

[Joao]

Post by Jim
No. Knowing what I know about martial arts in general and Limalama in
particular (which is hardly obscure, it's far and away the most popular
style in Latin America)

No, it isn't. I can guarantee you that it isn't. I lived in Brazil for
18 years, and for much of it I was involved in martial arts. Besides
Brazil, I've been to martial arts competitions in Argentina and Chile.
And between 1991 and 1996, because of my work I spent most of my time
traveling around all over Latin America and the Caribbean. Until this
thread I had never even heard of the word "Limalama". Sounds more like
a dromedary from western Peru than the name of a martial art.

Ps: from Google :
- Limalama gives 7,230 results
- Capoeira, another Latin American martial art yet not even close to
being the most popular, gives 1,270,000 results
- Pages about Judo in Spanish (adds Spain, but removes Brazil from the
search) gives 251,000 results
- Pages about Karate in Spanish (adds Spain, but removes Brazil from the
search) gives 226,000 results

Any questions?

[Mark Antony]

A friend of mine (Dewey Cooper) fights for K-1, and is also a
pro-boxer,-- so you can accomplish both -- good luck... Mark,